Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity
Cheysuli says: When there is clutter, I find a simple bed.
Ichiro: I find difficulty an opportunity to create discord.
Cheysuli: When you create discord, I find a way to create harmony by getting you into trouble.
Ichiro: When I find clutter, I get in trouble, which I think is difficult.
Cheysuli: In the middle of difficulties, I find ways to create clutter to get you into trouble